tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post6856658080064603534..comments2024-02-21T03:48:52.674-05:00Comments on Flying Lessons: A380 operators with Rolls Royce engines feeling like clowns in the circusChristine Negronihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15190247339367487575noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-4232166683629848462011-03-12T09:06:36.355-05:002011-03-12T09:06:36.355-05:00Interesting read...am curious about more details. ...Interesting read...am curious about more details. Being from the Fighters, I have known of cases in the Russian fleet, Specially Mig-27s. But I thought this was more common to high compression ratio engines and not too common with the airline engines. Am looking forward to more on this. Thanks Christine !Red Baron Aviatorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07021251541533610391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-73398027878993479902010-12-11T05:57:14.643-05:002010-12-11T05:57:14.643-05:00Hello everybody,
I think this event hast gotten a...Hello everybody,<br /><br />I think this event hast gotten a lot of attention because it happened on an A380, but uncontained disk failures are not that uncommon and are definitely not exclusive to one engine manufacturer.<br /><br />To put things in perspective: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/ntsb_FAA_uncontained_engine_failure_GE_202635-1.html<br /><br />Best regards,<br />James.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-50775922406268675992010-12-08T05:02:52.168-05:002010-12-08T05:02:52.168-05:00Two different kinds of engines are used to power t...Two different kinds of engines are used to power the fleet of A380s; the one that came apart near Singapore is the Rolls Royce Trent 900. Like all <a href="http://www.financemetrics.com/rolls-royce-engine-issue-raises-questions/" rel="nofollow">Rolls Royce engine</a>s, the Trent 900 adds another set of compressor blades into the mix, the so-called Intermediate Pressure (IP) compressor. Instead of squeezing the air in two stages, the engine does it in three.Paraghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06252372041858393646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-18147781831200003392010-12-05T02:59:32.585-05:002010-12-05T02:59:32.585-05:00That was very well said. Totally agree with the vi...That was very well said. Totally agree with the views above. Dont waste life fretting and being scared about death. Just enjoy the today and do everything that makes you happy, so that you have no regrets when the time to go does come!<br /><br />Re the A-380, yes, like with any new machine, we have a lot to learn. It is certainly satisfying to see the methodical and scientific way in which this investigation is progressing. Great work Christine. Your reporting has helped us remain on the top of the events as they develop. <br /><br />Keep it up!Captain Samir Kohlinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-41750526170665656162010-12-03T13:20:00.283-05:002010-12-03T13:20:00.283-05:00Hi Christine,
I'll be more afraid of a flight...Hi Christine,<br /><br />I'll be more afraid of a flight attendant spilling hot coffee on me while sitting in an aisle seat, only to have them yell at me saying, it was my fault than an uncontained engine failure with parts flying into the cabin.<br /><br />MD-80 would be a bad choice Christine, remember the Delta MD-80 series uncontained engine failure in Pensacola where parts came flying into the cabin like some rotating torture killing device from a Bruce Lee movie. The photos were gross.<br /><br />Don't want to sit over the wings ...... I've seen mishap photos of impaled passengers, shish kabob, when parts of the landing gears and sharp pointy objects in the landing gear wells came up through the cabin floor during a crash. Yes, extremely gross! <br /><br />Don't want to sit next to the lavatory, as walls from the lavatory separated and crushed and killed passengers during a crash. <br /><br />Don't want to sit behind a video monitor, seen a photo of shards of sharp parts of the video monitor stuck in a passengers skull after a crash. Gross, but amazingly, the passenger survived.<br /><br />You'll have to carry your own duct tape and tape shut the tray table in front of you closed, prior to a crash. Ever wonder how that tiny little clip that keeps the tray table shut during a severe crash? Seen photo of a passenger literally "table tray sawed" in half by the tray table after a crash. Yes, again very gross.<br /><br />Ever wonder where all the baggage containers below you ends up in a severe crash? There's only so much the law of physics say's you can crush before the opposite forces starts to counter-act .... up and through into the passenger cabin.<br /><br />There's always been theories of where to seat is the safest, for example the rear of the aircraft where the fuselage breaks away etc. Or the sit 3 rows behind the nose gear... that's a good excuse to fly in the front cabin all the time.<br /><br />But when Grim Reaper knocks on your seat back and tells you it's time to go, it doesn't matter where you sit, whether sitting in-line with the engine, in front of the engine, in back of the engine, next to the lavatory or sitting in the lavatory doing your thing ...... when it's time to go, it's time to go.<br /><br />So it's better not even to think about it and stress about it, whether an engine part will come flying through the cabin and killing you. <br /><br />The Airline and Military Pilots at Airlinenightmare.comPilots, Airlinenightmarehttp://airlinenightmare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-67918206433598381872010-12-03T12:51:51.439-05:002010-12-03T12:51:51.439-05:00You're right Samir, this life is just me waiti...You're right Samir, this life is just me waitin' to leap into the arms of Jesus. Thanks for setting that record straight.Christine Negronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190247339367487575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-70724884876098400232010-12-03T12:26:43.560-05:002010-12-03T12:26:43.560-05:00Hello Christine, my take, sit where you will. The ...Hello Christine, my take, sit where you will. The day your time comes, nothing can save you, and before that, nothing can take you!Captain Samir Kohlinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-54499755349493763082010-12-03T10:02:36.437-05:002010-12-03T10:02:36.437-05:00You will observe with tail mounted engines that th...You will observe with tail mounted engines that the pressure bulkhead lies forward of the rotatng machinery - an early airworthiness requirement!<br /><br />(Although I did get involved with an RB211 fan sepration on an L1011 - "liberation event" where the fan from the #2 engine cut a big hole in the aft pressure bulkhead - that was caused by an oli fire too but at the front of the engine....)<br /><br />Sit just behind the wing and watch the worm drives operating the flaps! On the 777 you can watch the entertaining low speed aileron twitching away too.Nikoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119901226987582553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-88992467763168063292010-12-03T08:54:45.721-05:002010-12-03T08:54:45.721-05:00At this point, the ATSB thinks the fatigue was the...At this point, the ATSB thinks the fatigue was the result of the manufacturing error in the pipe. As for sitting out of line of the engines, my entertainment is watching the wing in action on takeoff and landing. So are you telling me I'll have to fly only MD-80s and Fokkers?Christine Negronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190247339367487575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9133703253863123050.post-89931766442939024892010-12-03T04:10:25.414-05:002010-12-03T04:10:25.414-05:00We need to be a little careful here.
Is a defecti...We need to be a little careful here.<br /><br />Is a defective oil pipe the root cause of an uncontained turbine disc failure? Or did something else cause that oil pipe to fail, or contribute to it failing. There is talk of a fatigue failure of the pipe assembly but why should the connection of an oil pipe be stressed at all? It sounds like something else in the engine is moving more than it should.<br /><br />A seasoned flyer would never sit in line with the engines! There is a famous incident of a GE CF6 shedding blades on a DC10 and a passenger being sucked out of the smashed window. Very nasty.Nikoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03119901226987582553noreply@blogger.com