Notably absent from the FAA and Boeing statements is the F-Word, that being fire.
Despite the fact that the battery gone wild on the Japan Airlines Dreamliner at Boston's Logan Airport did catch fire, there will be no change in the regulator's position that fire on an airplane is a no-no. And that means even if contained in a big strong box, fire will be a no-go on the 787.
Despite the fact that the battery gone wild on the Japan Airlines Dreamliner at Boston's Logan Airport did catch fire, there will be no change in the regulator's position that fire on an airplane is a no-no. And that means even if contained in a big strong box, fire will be a no-go on the 787.
The battery from the JAL battery fire in Boston. |
Renewing a commitment to separate fire from flight sounds mighty good, but don't get too charged up about it. There are folks who insist, it ain't possible.
"There is zero probability of building a lithium ion battery and promising there won't ever be any chance of fire," said Lewis Larsen, a physicist and the chief executive of Lattice Energy in Chicago. "You cannot honestly say that." Larsen has been studying how microscopically small particles can cause catastrophic failures in lithium ion batteries and he hasn't been quiet about what he has learned. In a paper he posted online in 2010, Larsen wrote,
Exam of JAL battery from NTSB investigation |
An NTSB investigator examines material from the JAL 787 |
The battery from ANA's Dreamliner |
The Dreamliner packs 16 lithium ion battery cells on each plane. I'm no mathematician but with either of the estimated field failure rates cited above, there's no way the Dreamliner can meet the certification standards restricting smoke events to one in every 100 million hours if Larsen and Barnett's numbers are correct. Nor, these scientists say, can a lithium ion battery user ever entirely rule out fire from field failures. Boeing determined that fire in the battery would be a one in a billion catastrophic event in applying for certification for the 787.
In making the announcement, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood repeated for the umpteenth time the promise of federal safety officials, "We won't allow the plane to return to service unless we're satisfied that the new design ensures the safety of the aircraft and its passengers." Secretary LaHood doth not protest too much. He's clearly trying to live down his statement on January 11th that the Dreamliner is safe to fly.
No one doubts that the Dreamliner has lived up to its billing as a revolutionary airplane. But by hitching their airplane of tomorrow to a complicated and volatile technology Boeing's battery design may be the revolution's first casualty.
5 comments:
Sounds like a real sticking plaster solution to me.
I just don't understand. It really, really seems to me like arguing about the colour of Titanic's lifeboats.
There are so many voices flying around (sorry), so many jobs, dollars, reputations at stake, so many . . . uh . . er . . oh, I almost forgot: so many LIVES at stake that it really seems as if EVERYONE involved with this picture seems to see only THEIR tiny corner of that the large, flapping canvas that is THE issue here. Are people going to put these batteries onto very large, complex airplanes that are full of lots and lots of people who CAN'T board lifeboats?
What the pilots said back when was, we DON'T WANT things to protect us from fires or have spew vents or sprinklers or containment fields or Mr. Scott and I need a wee bit more time, Cap'n -- we DON'T WANT FIRES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
And that seems to me to be a MIGHTY REASONABLE position to take.
Why is there NO DISCUSSION of a complete change of battery types -- say, a switch to NiMH or NiCad, instead of trying to fix this time bomb that is going to have an issue -- you can BET MY LIFE on it -- instead of this endless dithering and enormous waste of time? If they'd started on the switch immediately after the first grounding they might already be ready to start flying by now.
If I were a pilot already rated on this bomb-to-be I'd quietly withdraw my application and go back to good old 777s or 757s and if I were a passenger looking at an itinerary which included a Dreamliner, unless I were up in First where the hijackers normally sit, I would not be flying that leg . . . (I'd give it a pass if I were a hijacker as well -- too dangerous!)
I would love to have a crystal ball and read the blog post you're going to be writing about all this next March, Christine.
"The problem is that nobody in the world has any real working experience with large multi-cell Lithium-based battery packs that have endured hard usage and vibration for periods of many years."
Very interesting comment regarding "hard usage and vibration" Was the 787 battery pack or at least one of its cells ever tested in a vibration environment similar to that of a 787 when landing with its thrust reversers roaring full blast? Or the shocks during a rough flight or imparted by a hard landing?
Didn't the Boston incident occur after some turbulence early in the flight and soon after the landing in Boston presumably with reverse thrust to slow it down?
Problem is, folks, that EVERYTHING on the blooming' machine is operated by electricity. No hydraulics, no mechanicals. Darned if I know how the backup systems work. It's not a question of refitting alternative power sources; it's ripping out the whole guts and going back to Step 2.
The whole FAA concept of 1x10E-9 for a metric of reliability is BS. Never been met yet, but the FAA can buy in, then turn to the manufacturer when the first failure occurs at a million hours and say "well, they promised & we took their word."19401 t
To Grumpy
The 787 has Hydraulic Systems. A High Pressure Hydraulic Pump driven by each Engine, and Electric Driven Pumps.
Hydraulic Pressure is used power Flight Control Surfaces, Rudder, Elevators, Flaps, Spoilers, Air Brakes.
The Battery packs are rarely used.
The APU Battery is only used when ground elect power is not available.
The APU can be started using the A.C./D.C. Generator/Starter, with the APU Battery
Main Engines are then started by Elect. Power from the APU using the Generator/Starters on the Engines
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